Comments on: Two Races, Two Polls, Two Conclusions: The Kentucky and Oregon Primaries http://thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com/two-races-two-polls-two-conclusions-the-kentucky-and-oregon-primaries.html An Independent Netzine About Ideas Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:20:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: liberalamerican http://thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com/two-races-two-polls-two-conclusions-the-kentucky-and-oregon-primaries.html/comment-page-1#comment-8436 liberalamerican Thu, 22 May 2008 21:29:13 +0000 http://thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com/?p=387#comment-8436 Hope your surgery was nothing serious and you are OK now. I hear what you are saying. This is where having some cross-tabulations would prove interesting. Are older black voters going for Clinton just like older white voters? In a few instances they did do the cross tabulations. In your home state, black voters aged 45-59 went 85% for Obama. It would take more research, but the data on black women looks interesting. In some states such as Ohio they voted for Obama in higher percentages than black men, while in Indiana they went slightly more for Clinton. In fact if black women has supported Obama in Indiana like they did in Ohio he might have won the state. As for Kentucky, the black vote in general was low. Maybe people figured that since Clinton was projected to win by such a big margin, it just wasn't worth voting. Finally, one of these days I'm going to do a piece about how come the press keeps carping about Obama and blue collar whites and says nothing about Clinton and the black vote. I have said before no Democrat will win the White House without a large black turnout. In fact no Democrat has won the White House in this century without a large black turnout. So for me the big question is not whether blue collar white will support Obama, but whether black voters will support Hillary Clinton. Hope your surgery was nothing serious and you are OK now.

I hear what you are saying. This is where having some cross-tabulations would prove interesting. Are older black voters going for Clinton just like older white voters? In a few instances they did do the cross tabulations. In your home state, black voters aged 45-59 went 85% for Obama. It would take more research, but the data on black women looks interesting. In some states such as Ohio they voted for Obama in higher percentages than black men, while in Indiana they went slightly more for Clinton. In fact if black women has supported Obama in Indiana like they did in Ohio he might have won the state.

As for Kentucky, the black vote in general was low. Maybe people figured that since Clinton was projected to win by such a big margin, it just wasn’t worth voting.

Finally, one of these days I’m going to do a piece about how come the press keeps carping about Obama and blue collar whites and says nothing about Clinton and the black vote. I have said before no Democrat will win the White House without a large black turnout. In fact no Democrat has won the White House in this century without a large black turnout.

So for me the big question is not whether blue collar white will support Obama, but whether black voters will support Hillary Clinton.

]]> By: Hathor http://thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com/two-races-two-polls-two-conclusions-the-kentucky-and-oregon-primaries.html/comment-page-1#comment-8434 Hathor Thu, 22 May 2008 18:42:13 +0000 http://thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com/?p=387#comment-8434 I had already voted in the Pennsylvania primary, I was having surgery that day. As I was taking the bus to the hospital, a ride through poor and working class black neighborhoods, I am listening to a few middle aged black folk discuss the primary. I felt I had been transported back to the fifties. There was so much suspicion about Barack Obama. It is hard to describe, I had that sense that we were still in the deeply segregated south where we didn't have enough confidence in a black person to lead. If he wasn't white, he's worth nothing, and you see the Clintons had been good to us. I think that that may be the mentality of why some blacks in Kentucky didn't vote for Obama. I had already voted in the Pennsylvania primary, I was having surgery that day. As I was taking the bus to the hospital, a ride through poor and working class black neighborhoods, I am listening to a few middle aged black folk discuss the primary. I felt I had been transported back to the fifties. There was so much suspicion about Barack Obama. It is hard to describe, I had that sense that we were still in the deeply segregated south where we didn’t have enough confidence in a black person to lead. If he wasn’t white, he’s worth nothing, and you see the Clintons had been good to us. I think that that may be the mentality of why some blacks in Kentucky didn’t vote for Obama.

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