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		<title>By: liberalamerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberalamerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t own an IPhone--can&#039;t afford one. Neither can many of the people I am writing about. They are in financial trouble because the government gave the tax breaks to people who can afford to buy lots of IPhones. As for overspenders the biggest overspender in U.S. history is one G.W. Bush, whose trillion dollar debt has also put our government and our country at risk. Finally, READ before you write--the report says it&#039;s not IPhones but housing that is driving the trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t own an IPhone&#8211;can&#8217;t afford one. Neither can many of the people I am writing about. They are in financial trouble because the government gave the tax breaks to people who can afford to buy lots of IPhones. As for overspenders the biggest overspender in U.S. history is one G.W. Bush, whose trillion dollar debt has also put our government and our country at risk. Finally, READ before you write&#8211;the report says it&#8217;s not IPhones but housing that is driving the trend.</p>
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		<title>By: brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post.

David, I think you&#039;re missing the point.  George Bush didn&#039;t sell any iPhones (he&#039;s not qualified to operate that kind of technology).  The current regime has done whatever possible to benefit the economic status of the top 5% or so.  That&#039;s their crime - inflating the wealthy and sticking it to the rest of us (which is exactly what happens when you combine the Bush tax cuts, corporate deregulation and lucrative military contracts associated with a pointless war which will cost us, the average taxpayers, quite a lot, well into the next decade).

The iPhone problem you mention falls on our culture of conspicuous consumption.  An average life fell out of fashion as we let advertising and marketing turn us into hyper-competitive, materialist consumers.  School kids all want to be actors or musicians, everyone deserves to be famous, and the labels on your jeans are suddenly of paramount importance.  Add loosening credit standards since the late 80&#039;s and overinflated home values and you have the recipe for a debtor nation.  No, this is not the description of everyone, but it is true of enough to cause the macro scale shifts we&#039;ve seen.  Yes, consumers share some blame for letting this culture of consumer values become the standard.  

And yes, credit issuers are also to blame for shifting their profit model from transaction fees for retailers to interest and penalty fees on consumers - they absolutely encouraged over spending and created systems to quickly escalate fees when someone falls behind.  It&#039;s the modern sharecropping.

So maybe, just maybe, there are systemic flaws contributing to this mess.  And that does include the government, for they are very cozy with the monied interests who prosper from this downward spiral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post.</p>
<p>David, I think you&#8217;re missing the point.  George Bush didn&#8217;t sell any iPhones (he&#8217;s not qualified to operate that kind of technology).  The current regime has done whatever possible to benefit the economic status of the top 5% or so.  That&#8217;s their crime &#8211; inflating the wealthy and sticking it to the rest of us (which is exactly what happens when you combine the Bush tax cuts, corporate deregulation and lucrative military contracts associated with a pointless war which will cost us, the average taxpayers, quite a lot, well into the next decade).</p>
<p>The iPhone problem you mention falls on our culture of conspicuous consumption.  An average life fell out of fashion as we let advertising and marketing turn us into hyper-competitive, materialist consumers.  School kids all want to be actors or musicians, everyone deserves to be famous, and the labels on your jeans are suddenly of paramount importance.  Add loosening credit standards since the late 80&#8242;s and overinflated home values and you have the recipe for a debtor nation.  No, this is not the description of everyone, but it is true of enough to cause the macro scale shifts we&#8217;ve seen.  Yes, consumers share some blame for letting this culture of consumer values become the standard.  </p>
<p>And yes, credit issuers are also to blame for shifting their profit model from transaction fees for retailers to interest and penalty fees on consumers &#8211; they absolutely encouraged over spending and created systems to quickly escalate fees when someone falls behind.  It&#8217;s the modern sharecropping.</p>
<p>So maybe, just maybe, there are systemic flaws contributing to this mess.  And that does include the government, for they are very cozy with the monied interests who prosper from this downward spiral.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so the conclusion is that Americans are charging up a storm on their credit cards to buy tings they can&#039;t afford. The credit card payments then prevent them from moving ahead in life.

How is the government to blame exactly? Did George Bush force you to buy your $500 iPhone? 

Maybe the the overspenders should take responsibility for their own desire to flaunt their possessions, instead of blaming the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so the conclusion is that Americans are charging up a storm on their credit cards to buy tings they can&#8217;t afford. The credit card payments then prevent them from moving ahead in life.</p>
<p>How is the government to blame exactly? Did George Bush force you to buy your $500 iPhone? </p>
<p>Maybe the the overspenders should take responsibility for their own desire to flaunt their possessions, instead of blaming the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Hathor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hathor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sen. Obama&#039;s  so called &quot;bitter&quot; remarks seem to touch on some of the theme of this post, but unfortunately he had to mention guns and religion in the same breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen. Obama&#8217;s  so called &#8220;bitter&#8221; remarks seem to touch on some of the theme of this post, but unfortunately he had to mention guns and religion in the same breath.</p>
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